Odd, unidentified saddlebags

BMW motorcycle saddle bags, Garhawk, Olympic, Comanche Products, Dan Brown, Arthur Fulmer, Aldo, Wistonia

Odd, or unidentified saddle bags

by Duane Ausherman

This is a collection of photos and information from BMW riders and collectors.  I include photos of a similar perspective in case one shows some aspect that another does not.This page is for odd, or low production saddlebags.  Once identified, some of these may move to the proper place.


Arthur Fulmer Bags


Duane,

Here are the bags I picked up today. I don’t see them on your site, so it might be good to add them. “Reid Dammann” Some of the members said they were Craven. They are pretty beat up, but I’ll get them looking good. If you want a different angle, let me know.

       

I am sure that these are not Craven.   I have an idea, but am not sure.   Anybody know??


Home made aluminum bags

Some small production runs of aluminum bags were done by individuals.  A few were offered for sale.  This one is unknown.


Dementor says that the fairing, tank and bags are all Heinrich.  The top box looks like a Samsonite.


Unknown bags  Unknown bags  Unknown bags  Unknown bags

The contributor says that these are BMW, but I don’t think so.  There is no shot of the full bags, but they look like Wixom to me in the way that the right bag folds down to get it out of the way of the seat.  What are they?


German first aid kit in a bag

I can’t tell if this is a bag in a saddlebag or just what.  What is it?

The silver fabric “what is it” under the Misc page looks like the advanced first aid kits that some of the Rettungsdeinst volunteers used at various festivals in Germany.  They were the equivalent of a small ambulance worth of equipment in a 20-kilo package.  They could be attached to bike racks, carried like a backpack or slung over a shoulder to move through dense, often uncooperative, crowds.

I saw a lot of them at Octoberfest in Munich, and one of my good friends carried one at a big soccer game (Dortmunder Union v. Istanbul.  The after-party got ugly with over 100K “hometown” Turks living in Dortmund).  A number of the guys that opted for civil service instead of military service got trained as EMT types.

They outside usually had a large percentage of the area covered with safety green or orange tape-stripe, and they had a hard-sided inner liner.

Onkel Udo


Dan Brown saddlebags

By Brent Scharpansky

Dan Brown saddle bags, top view  Dan Brown saddle bags, side view  Dan Brown saddle bags, side view  Dan Brown saddle bags, front view  Dan Brown saddle bags, rear view


Comanche Products bags

Comanche saddle bags 1973  Comanche bag mounts

Hi Duane

Comanche Products, Clearview Rd made the traditional bags in Cottontown, Tenn.  These were bought in 1973. The tape stripes are not original, nor are the various holes that held lights. The top mounts bolt to the shock bolt and the top hole on the license plate bracket. The bottom mount goes from the bottom of the bag to what? I put it on the reflector tab.

They measure 17″ long, 7″ wide, 9″ high w/o lid

Leon


Olympic

Olympic saddle bags, copies of the Krauser bags

Olympic made these Krauser wannabes. Cheaper in price and quality, but held up ok.  They attach to Krauser mounts.  Bought these in the late ’70s, Leon


Garhawk Saddlebags

By Dave Langlois

Advertisement for Garhawk saddle bags

This bag is shown on a /2 US model.  I have never seen this one before.


Aldo saddlebags and trunk, or top box

By Bob Zinda in Wis.

Aldo, left saddle bag on a /5 with sidecar  Aldo, saddle bags, rear view, on a /5 with sidecar  Aldo, saddle bag,showing the hasp at the front of the bag lid.  Aldo bag rear lights  Aldo left mount on a slash 5  Aldo bag mount going over the rear fender  Aldo trunk box on a slash 5  Aldo trunk box on a slash 5

The glassed in business card of Aldo Industries

Here is a picture of the business card Al & Dolores glassed inside every saddlebag cover and trunk cover.  The glass is somewhat discolored from age.  They were local residents here in the Milwaukee area and were great friends of ours for many years.  I also have pics of their matching R90 BMW’s in the early ’70s.  They belonged to our WIS BMW Motorcycle club, and quite a few members bought them.

Bob tells me that the aluminum luggage rack was made by Reynolds of Salt Lake City, Utah.


Saddle bags for the slash 5 series by Fiber Mold, made in Tulsa, Oklahoma

Fibre-Mold Bags

Duane:

The pics are attached.  I can’t tell you much about them.  There are no hinges on the lid, and there are two pins on the lid that slide into a metal receiver in the bag and a locking latch facing aft.  They have no lights like the Enduro bags.  They attach to a bracket that extends from the seat frame and originally attached to a clamp around the muffler via spring-loaded pin
clips’.

The lids were attached to the bags with a ball chain.  There was a remnant of a label on the inside of the lid that I lost.  The print was in German.

I love the bags and am contemplating fabricating a new lid out of fiberglass.  But I am keeping an eye open for other options.  The bags seem easy enough to come by.  Its the hardware compatible with the bike that I find confusing.  I work wood, not metal.

Robert D. Allshouse

Sorry Robert, but I don’t remember ever seeing them.  Maybe one of our readers can identify them.  Duane


These are the Enduro bags made for the /5

This is a German copy of the USA Enduro bag.   Side view of the Enduro copy.  From this view one can see that the molding process is different from the Enduro saddlebags for BMW motorcycles.


Wistonia bags

Hi Duane,
Great site you have.  Thanks for maintaining it!  I recently bought a 1972 R75/5, and it came with Wistonia bags.  I’ve been around a lot of older BMWs but have never seen Wistonia panniers.  I’ve asked many knowledgeable BMW folks…and some knowledgeable British bike folks…but no one seems to have a clue about the provenance of the Wistonia name.

You actually have the same bags on your website, under “Odd or Unidentified Saddlebags,” with several photos and the designation “Reid Dammann” (?).  I believe them to be Wistonia.  Someone removed the Wistonia badges and replaced them with Roundels.  Here’s a pic of the one on your site and of mine next.

Note that the top of the bag is off in this pic. The shape, size, and pinstriping and latches are all the same.  See the close-up of the metal Wistonia badge.  Of course, it’s always possible that someone removed the original
Roundel and added the Wistonia badge, but I doubt it.  I’d still like to know more about the company/manufacturer Wistonia.

Katie Black

BMW (Butler and Smith) leather bags

This is a collection of photos and information from BMW riders and collectors.  I include photos of similar perspective in case one shows some aspect that another does not.  Please feel free to add information and photos.  As I remember, these did not come with mounting instructions.  Most were made by Denfeld.

BMW bag photos supplied by Jim Nassetta

Typical Delfeld leather saddle bags offered by BMW for many years.

The back side of BMW leather bags.  The inside of the Denfeld leather bags.

These bags were supplied by Butler and Smith for both the /2 and /5 series.  Only the mounts were different.  The leather was very thick and stiff.  The mounts were well known to break, but that was mostly because they were overloaded.  They were not highly waterproof and users would wrap the contents in plastic bags.  They were probably the least expensive bags one could buy for a BMW.  The 1971 parts book shows two sizes of leather bags and no Krauser bags.

These bags came in slightly different shapes and got distorted by use.  I think that over time, different contractors made them for motorcycles and they were imported by Butler and Smith.

A well used left leather bag.  A rear view of the bag  This view shows the back side with the mount in place.  A good side view of a well worn BMW leather bag.

/2 photos provided by Bob Fee, thanks

Right rear view of the mounting system. Rear view of the mounting system.  Underneath view of the mounting system.  Front left view of the mounting system.  View of the back side of a bag.  View of the back side of a bag on the mounts.  View of the back side of a bag on the mounting system.  This view shows the detail of how the bag sits on the mount.

Leather bags on a very tasty /2 conversion

By Craig McClure

A slash 2 conversion with a R90S engine, leather bags, Heinrich large tank and snowflake wheels  The left mount in place.  The left mount shown directly and the bag sitting on the bike.  The left bag shown mounted up.

Hi Duane, as promised here are the pix. I got the bag mounts from Bobs BMW, he had 1 more mount-set than bag-set, or would not have sold it without the bags.  I conjured these bags up for much less $$$, they are leatherette, & have Austrian crest markings…I prefer to ride without bags myself, but they are so convenient & go on easily when you need to carry things.  In fact I have 3 identical German army rubberized/leather trim backpacks, to which I will add hardware, that will fit my pannier mounts & rear rack.  I will send photos when I get it completed.  I hope these photos help(& are good enough).  You are doing a heroic service for the community of vintage BMW fans.  I for one certainly appreciate it.  Thanks & very best wishes to you, Craig

Updated 15 Nov. 2019



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